I heard I can't install Silverlight on Athlon processor by running MSI directly. It was quite supprising Silverlight has a processor specific issue. I never had a processor specific issue implementing any technology so far.
Does anyone know Microsoft's resolution to handle Ahtlon users?
It's not an Athlon specific issue; Silverlight requires SSE instructions. More Athlon users are having problems with that because AMD introduced SSE instructions into their processors much later than Intel did. People running Pentium 2s will have the same
problem as people running pre-XP Athlons.
So in order to make my site user friendly I had better put some notice like "This section is NOT visible for Athlon nor Pentium II or earlier" right (while Flash supports all)?
Any idea the future plan of Microsoft how to address this issue?
Before I know this issue, the most eye catching feature of Silverlight to me was cross-browser cross-platform. But now 'non-cross-processor' seems like to be appended.
Well Flash requires MMX instructions, so it has similar restraints (though MMX is certainly an older technology and therefore more widely adopted). Additionally, Athlon XPs work, it is just the Athlons before the XP series that don't.
There aren't currently any plans to allow installation on non-SSE machines to my knowledge (this of course may change). At this point SSE is pretty widely adopted (Pentium 3s support SSE), and its adoption rate can only go up.
Thank you again for the explanation! You have such an under-the-food technical skill!
It seems like as of now I have to provide an alternative saying simple HTML version especially when the page is mission critical e.g. e-commerce site. I can't afford to lose the prospective shoppers simply because they use old Athlon, old Pentium and Mac
OS before 10.4.8.
Through my career, when the page was not mission critical, such as the # of target end users is small, e.g. content management system, I usually mentioned the limitation, if any, up front blocking them to use it.
Thanks to your explanation, now I can present the limitation of Silverlight in advance before our end user looking for the answer from the message board like here.
I agree in the future I may not need to display this limitation any more due to the higher end browsers dominate the martket then. But until then, unless Microsoft comes up with the solution, I feel like gotta present this limitation up front.
For non-mission critical application, I will present the limitation up front. For mission critical applications, I would like to redirect the user automatically to Silverlight version and simple HTML version rather than presenting extra page asking the end-user
to choose it. But I haven't detected the end-user's CPU type before.
hudsonchoi
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Ahtlon Support
Oct 10, 2007 08:13 PM | LINK
I heard I can't install Silverlight on Athlon processor by running MSI directly. It was quite supprising Silverlight has a processor specific issue. I never had a processor specific issue implementing any technology so far.
Does anyone know Microsoft's resolution to handle Ahtlon users?
Thanks,
Hudson
Installation Silverlight
hudsonchoi
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Re: Ahtlon Support
Oct 10, 2007 08:17 PM | LINK
I mean I have never had a processor specific issue that is working on Intel but not working on Athlon.
Daniel Harvey
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Re: Ahtlon Support
Oct 10, 2007 09:19 PM | LINK
It's not an Athlon specific issue; Silverlight requires SSE instructions. More Athlon users are having problems with that because AMD introduced SSE instructions into their processors much later than Intel did. People running Pentium 2s will have the same problem as people running pre-XP Athlons.
hudsonchoi
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Re: Re: Ahtlon Support
Oct 10, 2007 09:58 PM | LINK
Thank you Daniel for the info!
So in order to make my site user friendly I had better put some notice like "This section is NOT visible for Athlon nor Pentium II or earlier" right (while Flash supports all)?
Any idea the future plan of Microsoft how to address this issue?
Before I know this issue, the most eye catching feature of Silverlight to me was cross-browser cross-platform. But now 'non-cross-processor' seems like to be appended.
Thanks,
Hudson H. Choi
Daniel Harvey
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Re: Re: Ahtlon Support
Oct 10, 2007 10:12 PM | LINK
Well Flash requires MMX instructions, so it has similar restraints (though MMX is certainly an older technology and therefore more widely adopted). Additionally, Athlon XPs work, it is just the Athlons before the XP series that don't.
There aren't currently any plans to allow installation on non-SSE machines to my knowledge (this of course may change). At this point SSE is pretty widely adopted (Pentium 3s support SSE), and its adoption rate can only go up.
hudsonchoi
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Re: Re: Re: Ahtlon Support
Oct 10, 2007 10:53 PM | LINK
Thank you again for the explanation! You have such an under-the-food technical skill!
It seems like as of now I have to provide an alternative saying simple HTML version especially when the page is mission critical e.g. e-commerce site. I can't afford to lose the prospective shoppers simply because they use old Athlon, old Pentium and Mac OS before 10.4.8.
Through my career, when the page was not mission critical, such as the # of target end users is small, e.g. content management system, I usually mentioned the limitation, if any, up front blocking them to use it.
Thanks to your explanation, now I can present the limitation of Silverlight in advance before our end user looking for the answer from the message board like here.
I agree in the future I may not need to display this limitation any more due to the higher end browsers dominate the martket then. But until then, unless Microsoft comes up with the solution, I feel like gotta present this limitation up front.
Best Regards,
Hudson H. Choi
hudsonchoi
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Re: Re: Re: Ahtlon Support
Oct 10, 2007 11:17 PM | LINK
As long as there is any alternative I feel great!
For non-mission critical application, I will present the limitation up front. For mission critical applications, I would like to redirect the user automatically to Silverlight version and simple HTML version rather than presenting extra page asking the end-user to choose it. But I haven't detected the end-user's CPU type before.
Would anyone please help?
Thank you in advance.
Hudson H. Choi