Saw the great Silverlight demos at the MEDC and Silverlight was demoed running on a Windows Mobile device. Will that bits be made available for download from this site sometime in the near future?
Also, any plans to support any browsers running on the Symbian and other consumer platforms? (Btw. Mac support is fantastic thanks for that!)
Hello - glad you enjoyed the demos. The demo was a real prototype of silverlight ported to Windows Mobile 6.0 renderering mainly XAML based visuals. (ie - it was real code - no smoke and mirrors) You can check out
my blog for a few more specifics on the demo.
We currently don't have a release schedule at this point that I can share. This will be a very likely spot that we will make announcements of availability in the future.
Symbian and other platforms are interesting targets. We have no firm plans at the moment.
I work for a company that is building enterprise level solutions on Windows Mobile devices. I am very interested in Silverlight or WPF based technologies on Windows Mobile. However our application runs as a local Winforms application currently. I know that
Silverlight is a web based technology but is there any possibility of Silverlight being utilized for mobile applications in this manner?
If not then is WPF or a subset of WPF being ported to Windows Mobile? I see great potential for WPF based technologies on a mobile device however not all will want an internet connection or an active internet connection, so being entirely browser driven
may be a problem.
We haven't driven any stakes in the ground of what the containment architecture for Silverlight on Windows Mobile will be. Thanks for sharing your scenario - now is a good time since we are considering these things. We'll release more details as we get
things firmed up.
Sounds great :) We were at your MEDC conference last week. If theres any questions I can answer to describe our needs on Windows Mobile please ask. We are one of the leaders in enterprise level applications on mobile devices and as one of the developers
I can see WPF display technologies being something very valuable on them.
Yes the primary platform is Windows Mobile. Currently were just transitioning to the .NET CF v2 (jumping to sp2) from v1. In doing so we are targeting Windows Mobile 2005 for our development going forward in our current version. As far as our support for
previous versions of our software we still support Windows Mobile 2003, however as mentioned newer development now is being shifted to CF 2 and WM 2005.
I do not believe we have any CE based devices deloyed. We are also looking at Smart Phone in the future but this is not something pressing. I'm not sure if any customers are requesting this, or if its simply the company trying to cover more platforms.
I really like the potential of WPF based technology on mobile devices because it gives us much more to work with graphically. Being vector based if whichever WPF technology makes it to Windows Mobile (be it silveright or WPF) if it also contains layout (which
silverlight does not currently) such as Anchoring/Docking that Winforms has then making UI's flexible across many devices should be a very trivial task. Especially for forms where there is not much UI and you simply need it to scale and anchor/dock to resize.
Outside of that though I really am hoping either Silverlight on Windows Mobile or another derived WPF will allow either non-browser based or some sort of manner where the app runs and feels "local". As WPF is a step up over Winforms, we want the same on
Windows Mobile.
If we could maintain our current architecture (lots of XML crunching, custom HTTP communication library for syncing data between our Windows Mobile client & server backend) and replace our Winforms front end with WPF/XAML this gives us really rich UI possibilities.
Also just as a matter of opinion. Let's face it mobile devices need flashy UI's and animations. This really isn't possible in Winforms outside of a ton of images which isn't a great solution. Over time Windows Mobile is getting more what I call "consumer"
looking than "desktop" looking however bringing a WPF/XAML technology can put us all over the top in what we can be capable of.
For example that MLB demo from the Silverlight on CF demo. Try doing that on Winforms. I'm sure its possible but not very easily and cleanly and taking up a ton of memory with images.
I'd also strongly like to request the ability to run Silverlight applications as a local client application, in addition to the default Web based support.
We work with a large number of large enterprise level companies, and our applications tend to demand the ability to handle being disconnected even if it is only for rare and short periods of time. We have always used SQL CE, SQL Mobile, SQL Compact Edition,
sometimes with merge replication and sometimes with Web services.
I'd be glad to present our business case in more detail, feel free to contact me.
I completely agree. I too would love to see it run as a client side application, in addition to web based... I actually half-way expected WM 6 to have it built in, with much of its apps built on it... I guess not though - although I don't know anything about
WM 6 yet, I'm just now getting to the whitepapers.
Thanks for all your work. I would love to see this on Mobile!
armanddp
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Silverlight Platform Support
May 01, 2007 05:25 PM | LINK
Saw the great Silverlight demos at the MEDC and Silverlight was demoed running on a Windows Mobile device. Will that bits be made available for download from this site sometime in the near future?
Also, any plans to support any browsers running on the Symbian and other consumer platforms? (Btw. Mac support is fantastic thanks for that!)
silverlight Mac Symbian
robertunoki
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Re: Silverlight Platform Support
May 09, 2007 11:54 PM | LINK
Hello - glad you enjoyed the demos. The demo was a real prototype of silverlight ported to Windows Mobile 6.0 renderering mainly XAML based visuals. (ie - it was real code - no smoke and mirrors) You can check out my blog for a few more specifics on the demo.
We currently don't have a release schedule at this point that I can share. This will be a very likely spot that we will make announcements of availability in the future.
Symbian and other platforms are interesting targets. We have no firm plans at the moment.
Windows Mobile Windows CE
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Re: Silverlight Platform Support
May 10, 2007 03:03 PM | LINK
Good morning.
I work for a company that is building enterprise level solutions on Windows Mobile devices. I am very interested in Silverlight or WPF based technologies on Windows Mobile. However our application runs as a local Winforms application currently. I know that Silverlight is a web based technology but is there any possibility of Silverlight being utilized for mobile applications in this manner?
If not then is WPF or a subset of WPF being ported to Windows Mobile? I see great potential for WPF based technologies on a mobile device however not all will want an internet connection or an active internet connection, so being entirely browser driven may be a problem.
Thanks and take care.
robertunoki
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Re: Silverlight Platform Support
May 10, 2007 10:15 PM | LINK
We haven't driven any stakes in the ground of what the containment architecture for Silverlight on Windows Mobile will be. Thanks for sharing your scenario - now is a good time since we are considering these things. We'll release more details as we get things firmed up.
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Re: Silverlight Platform Support
May 11, 2007 01:22 PM | LINK
Sounds great :) We were at your MEDC conference last week. If theres any questions I can answer to describe our needs on Windows Mobile please ask. We are one of the leaders in enterprise level applications on mobile devices and as one of the developers I can see WPF display technologies being something very valuable on them.
Thanks and take care.
robertunoki
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Re: Silverlight Platform Support
May 11, 2007 03:35 PM | LINK
Is your primary platform that you target Windows Mobile? Or do you have Windows CE devices that you target in addition? Any other platforms?
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Re: Silverlight Platform Support
May 11, 2007 04:26 PM | LINK
Yes the primary platform is Windows Mobile. Currently were just transitioning to the .NET CF v2 (jumping to sp2) from v1. In doing so we are targeting Windows Mobile 2005 for our development going forward in our current version. As far as our support for previous versions of our software we still support Windows Mobile 2003, however as mentioned newer development now is being shifted to CF 2 and WM 2005.
I do not believe we have any CE based devices deloyed. We are also looking at Smart Phone in the future but this is not something pressing. I'm not sure if any customers are requesting this, or if its simply the company trying to cover more platforms.
I really like the potential of WPF based technology on mobile devices because it gives us much more to work with graphically. Being vector based if whichever WPF technology makes it to Windows Mobile (be it silveright or WPF) if it also contains layout (which silverlight does not currently) such as Anchoring/Docking that Winforms has then making UI's flexible across many devices should be a very trivial task. Especially for forms where there is not much UI and you simply need it to scale and anchor/dock to resize.
Outside of that though I really am hoping either Silverlight on Windows Mobile or another derived WPF will allow either non-browser based or some sort of manner where the app runs and feels "local". As WPF is a step up over Winforms, we want the same on Windows Mobile.
If we could maintain our current architecture (lots of XML crunching, custom HTTP communication library for syncing data between our Windows Mobile client & server backend) and replace our Winforms front end with WPF/XAML this gives us really rich UI possibilities.
Also just as a matter of opinion. Let's face it mobile devices need flashy UI's and animations. This really isn't possible in Winforms outside of a ton of images which isn't a great solution. Over time Windows Mobile is getting more what I call "consumer" looking than "desktop" looking however bringing a WPF/XAML technology can put us all over the top in what we can be capable of.
For example that MLB demo from the Silverlight on CF demo. Try doing that on Winforms. I'm sure its possible but not very easily and cleanly and taking up a ton of memory with images.
Sorry just blurted out all my thoughts :)
Thanks and take care.
robertunoki
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Re: Silverlight Platform Support
May 11, 2007 04:39 PM | LINK
Hey - thanks for the thorough reply. It's helpful and I really appreciate it.
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Re: Silverlight Platform Support
May 20, 2007 12:31 AM | LINK
Hi,
I'd also strongly like to request the ability to run Silverlight applications as a local client application, in addition to the default Web based support.
We work with a large number of large enterprise level companies, and our applications tend to demand the ability to handle being disconnected even if it is only for rare and short periods of time. We have always used SQL CE, SQL Mobile, SQL Compact Edition, sometimes with merge replication and sometimes with Web services.
I'd be glad to present our business case in more detail, feel free to contact me.
Thanks,
twisterjosh
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Re: Silverlight Platform Support
Jun 16, 2007 04:20 PM | LINK
I completely agree. I too would love to see it run as a client side application, in addition to web based... I actually half-way expected WM 6 to have it built in, with much of its apps built on it... I guess not though - although I don't know anything about WM 6 yet, I'm just now getting to the whitepapers.
Thanks for all your work. I would love to see this on Mobile!