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Re: Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

Eloff — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:30:11 GMT

Your Microsoft guy decided not to make work and trouble for him/herself by just telling you no.

The reality is very different, if you read on:

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/RedistributionFAQ.mspx

It says:
Embedding allows fonts to travel with documents. Most fonts distributed with Microsoft products allow embedding. To check a font's embedding permissions, right-click on the font file and choose 'Properties'. There are 4 levels of embedding permissions:

'Print and preview' fonts can be embedded in a document, provided the user reading the document cannot edit the content of the document.

'Editable' fonts can be embedded within content that can be edited by the user.

'Installable' fonts within a document may be permanently installed by the user reading the document or a client application. In practice, installable fonts are treated like editable fonts by most client applications.

'No embedding permissions' prevent fonts from being embedded in a document.

Tahoma is marked as 'Editable', (At least it is on my Vista Ultimate machine), which means go ahead and embed it.

Btw, you can specify Tahoma for the font and it should work if it's available on the user's system (i.e. no embedding required) according to:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc189010(VS.95).aspx

There's no mention made that you are required to obfuscate the font, but the reality there as well is that silverlight fonts are obfuscated! You cannot use a font that's simply in the XAP file, I know because Microsoft changed that at the last minute for Silverlight 2 RTM, and I'm still miffed about it. Fonts must be embedded in an assembly (required something like Reflector to be able to extract them.)

[Rant] It makes life hard for people wanting to use other fonts with dynamic languages that have no compiled assemblies to compile fonts into. (It also means that if you want to load fonts dynamically you have to create assemblies dynamically, which cannot be unloaded - resulting in a huge memory leak.) [/Rant]

-Dan

Re: Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

WiproSachin — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:40:31 GMT

Great work Stefan......

Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

stefan.josten — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:33:00 GMT

Hi,

I've got an answer:

It's not allowed to deploy Tahoma. You have to buy a license from http://www.ascendercorp.com/inquiry.aspx?Ref=Microsoft

Unfortunatly my contact person said there will be no new fonts in the final version.

Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

Bill Reiss — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:04:15 GMT

Ok great thanks, I'm also checking through one of my Microsoft contacts.

Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

stefan.josten — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:02:27 GMT

Bill

I'm waiting for a response of a PSFD Task to Microsoft. I'll let you know, when I get the answer.

Stefan

Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

Bill Reiss — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:56:16 GMT

Stefan,

Thanks for the link.

It's hard to get a clear answer on this sort of stuff, it would be great if we could get an official stance from MS on embedding system fonts in Silverlight. When fonts are embedded in a Word doc, they're not in a readily consumable format, even with docx, you can't just rename it to a ZIP and grab the font because the font file is obfuscated, most likely to prevent someone from doing just that. In a Silverlight app, the font file is not obfuscated, so this could be a difference.

If this is an issue which makes it so that we can't legally embed font files, Microsoft should probably add obfuscated font support to Silverlight.

Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

stefan.josten — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:34:56 GMT

Hi,

If I unstand this right, embedding might be OK:

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FID=19&FNAME=Tahoma%20Bold&FVER=2.30
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/TrueTypeEmbedding.mspx

Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

WiproSachin — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:17:06 GMT

Hi,

Does any one have Free Tahoma font. Please provide me the link as MS Tahoma is non shareable . Hope to get Tahoma inside silverlight by end of silverlight 2 final release.

Regards

Sachin

Re: Re: Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

SteveWong — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:14:10 GMT

of course, you should have the permission for distribution of the FontFamily which is also a remind from MSDN

Re: Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

Bill Reiss — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:08:24 GMT

SteveWong:

include it in your project first

This is a risky suggestion. As I understand it, the font licenses on Windows don't allow for you to redistribute the font. Now if you could find a freeware or royalty free redistributable version of Tahoma, then you could include that one.

Re: Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

SteveWong — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:40:23 GMT

include it in your project first

Re: Using Font Family Tahoma

Bill Reiss — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:41:30 GMT

Tahoma is not one of the built in fonts for Silverlight:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.media.fontfamily(VS.95).aspx

Using Font Family Tahoma

WiproSachin — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:05:16 GMT

Hi,

I need to use Tahoma As Font Family for Textblock

But it not coming in Tahoma.

Please Help.